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| Re: Rawat Cult vs Trump Cult - Copied by Admin from the main forum -- swimming free | Top of thread | Post Reply | Forum |
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First, that is terribly traumatic even if it is your ex. I very casually knew victims and perpetrator in a family annihilation murder suicide, and this sort of violence such a ripple effect. I am so sorry for all involved. I have a lot of thoughts about Trump, and I myself, find him terrifying, and I think he has many qualities of a cult leader, and many of his followers treat him as a cult leader. Steven Hassan wrote the Cult of Trump. Did you know that a former premie debated Steve Hassan about it? https://freedomofmind.com/jim-heller-and-steven-hassan-debate-the-cult-of-trump/ That aside... I think not all people who support Trump treat him as a cult leader. I think its way more complex. Some of the single issue voters support him because he supports their issue... lots of reasons that I may really have trouble comprehending. I do admire the conservatives who reject Trump though, even if I disagree with the issue that they are devoted to, just as I have liberals who don't just lockstep give a pass to the misbehaviors of people who also support their policies. I can't stand hypocrisy and I notice when people put principle and ethics above self interest. I think social media has played a huge role in creating the us vs them mentality. I miss a world where people can debate ideas and maintain a human connection. It's gotten so much worse. Still, I have lost or decided to not interact with people who try to "convert" me to Trump. That, is cult like. But others, I can interact with fine and respect if neither one of us is trying to "save" the other. I guess, it depends? With premies, I could buy the people at the very fringes of it, who don't get very involved, maybe are not cult members, but maybe not really possible. You have to ignore a LOT and from what I understand, to get Knowledge and the premie only type events it's still very much about Prem Rawat and still a lot of Master and crap. You would have to be SOOO far at periphery and ignorant, dabbling in it, to not be in a cult. Trump? Obviously, Q anon and most if not all of Jan 6 insurrectionists is cult, IMO. But not all who vote for him are fanatics, and I don't know how the draw the line so clearly. I think though, on the forum, the topic while having overlap, can destroy the discussion. On Susiewasapremie, some folks with very different political leanings than mine have been incredibly helpful and kind, so that's been a lesson, and maybe a little hopeful for me. That people can still treat each other respectfully, and see this very differently. Some, not all. I agree with you Swimming Free about who is the bigger danger to the world. And I agree it's never been more important to understand cults. I just have noted lately that it's not entirely analogous. On the other hand, cult "hopping" is a very real phenomenon. On the Facebook "Critical discussion about Prem Rawat" we decided to make it against the rules to talk about Trump, vaccines, health cures, politics generally. But someone, actually with a very different view from me, more than one really, made points about how her views on politics were her, drip, even if she didn't use the word. So the comment seemed so relevant. It's just hard. Life is one big "it depends"... but also, sometimes, we have to stand up. And we may be surprised by who stands beside us? |
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