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Susan ®

11/03/2023, 21:16:36
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Today I learned that at the end of the Keys session an elite instructor in possession of something called a "Mahatma Mac" would somehow help the initiate recieve Knowledge from Prem Rawat. I have done a search with "keys" "mahatma" "mac" "mahatmamac" can someone confirm this? Looking for a reference. Maybe I am missing it.






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11/04/2023, 04:46:00
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The Mahatma Mac is a Mac computer with the videos on it that instruct the pre-pwks how to meditate.

see https://prem-rawat-bio.org/videos/connect2000.html

As I recall Rawat was in raptures about its security as if anyone cared to break in to learn the techniques. When I first watched it I thought he was about to say it will explode if you attempt to login 3 times and fail.










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11/04/2023, 06:47:32
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Yes. The keys were a set of DVDs intended to prepare an aspirant to receive Knowledge. After completing/watching the Keys over the course of many weeks/months, an aspirant could request to receive Knowledge. After that, Knowledge Sessions were the same as always except that Prem "revealed" the techniques by demonstrating them on video instead of the instructor/mahatma as in our case.

The video of Prem demonstrating the techniques was loaded on a highly secure McIntosh laptop dubbed a Mahatma Mac.

What you said!

Knowledge Sessions were often one or two aspirants, but sometimes a few more depending on how many aspirants in a region completed the Keys and requested to receive Knowledge. They were still a very big deal. I remember a KS team of about five premies who would actually meet the day before to review procedures and rehearse, then meet afterwards to "debrief."

Instructor, host/greeter, light switcher, refreshments, SmartCard registrar, AV technician, security guard and so on, not to mention the meticulous set-up. Two days, many hours and all those people for one person, and of course they all had to have fully trained backups. And the venue or hall had to be pre-inspected by a national level honcho and certified as meeting a long checklist of requirements.









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11/04/2023, 11:34:16
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'Instructor, host/greeter, light switcher, refreshments, SmartCard registrar, AV technician, security guard and so on, not to mention the meticulous set-up. Two days, many hours and all those people for one person, and of course they all had to have fully trained backups. And the venue or hall had to be pre-inspected by a national level honcho and certified as meeting a long checklist of requirements.'

Amazing! The Perfect Master teaches insane perfectionism. Not a cult though! What was He thinking?






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lesley ®

11/04/2023, 18:05:27
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wasn't it supposed to be person to person?  

That must be one Holy Video to be able to impart the Holy Knowledge of God to people.






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KarenK ®

11/04/2023, 16:25:45
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Who are they expecting? All the manmuts? EDrek, JHB, Cynthia and Anth? ROTFLMAO!






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Susan ®

11/04/2023, 18:25:21
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Remember when Sir Dave told the story of guarding the cheese. 

https://best.drek.org/big_cheese.html

I am sure he needed some security but not from his critics. Worst I ever heard was a pie in the face; it was Pat Halley that needed the security. 

There were some loony premies though, I could see not wanting to wake up like Queen Elizabeth with a bongo in your bedroom. 






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Susan ®

11/04/2023, 18:06:28
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Wow. Damn this cult was weird. I think in some ways it sounds like the more normal it tried to look from the outside the weirder it was on the inside

And when the labor is free- it doesn’t matter to them how much time is wasted on one damn aspirant.

I can’t decide if MahatmaMac is a good name for a veggie burger or the competition for the Lenovo Yoga?








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11/04/2023, 18:16:23
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prembio ®

11/04/2023, 23:37:31
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I recently found a copy of the Knowledge Session Event Guide which in it's 77 pages goes into a little more detail than Lakeshore just posted. Actually I think it was Lakeshore who gave it to me. There is a copy at:

https://prem-rawat-bio.org/events/KS_eventguide.html






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11/04/2023, 23:38:13
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Susan ®

11/05/2023, 14:46:08
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The detail in that was exactly as described. 

There must be some human itch that is scratched by secret rituals. 

The contact Lens, breath mints, wet wipes don’t forget to prime the first one- the detail in that thing was astounding.






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aunt bea ®

11/05/2023, 16:19:11
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That was a book I read in college and also a big anthropology topic. Sacred (and often secret) rituals are what allow us to create transcendent moments separated from the daily grind. It is definitely a human itch that gives us a sense of purpose, identity and community. (as an aside, I just watched Netflix docu about a group of non homo sapien hominids who apparently were doing some kind of elaborate death rituals 500K years ago, longer than we were even around.)

So surely the whole secret ritual moment and long preparation is what gives the knowledge (and its giver) power over the recipient. You can read tons of examples of this in all kinds of cultures. Interesting that Prem was insecure enough to think that he had to be doing it directly, just to make everyone knew who the real giver was. Also the tech made it possible.

The excuse was of course that the instructors/mahatmas were all doing it wrong and that is why it didn't stick with so many. Of course if you think about it for like 30 seconds, what is there to actually get wrong? But the ritual magic is what is supposed to make it work and somehow having a video of Prem is more magical than the real life touch of a human instructor.

One thing that I did find interesting in the manual, which I only skimmed over for about 10 seconds, is that they had diagrams where 100 knowledge receivers were planned. So they were thinking big or bigger anyway. So if it was really only 1-3 people as someone in the thread said, I guess it didn't turn out to be the big takeoff they were expecting. 

Oh well, every act has its downfall, unless you are Madonna.







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tommo ®

11/05/2023, 16:06:55
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Obsessional micromanagement is a characteristic of incompetent leaders.  As I recall the cult spin on this sort of nonsense was Rawat always insisting on everything being 'immaculate'. 






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