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Poetic Justice for "God" - This is the one I'd like to see. Let's see.... If I was God, what would be rawat's just reward? I think I'd put "Him" on a throne in his underwear in front of all his current AND ex-devotees. We would have the laugh fest of the century. It would put a whole new spin in "Oh my God!" Karen P.S. How do I edit my log in name? It is supposed to be KarenK.
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I've got my first doubts, when M read his own poems, those poems were really shallow and left me wondering how a supposedly entlightend person could write such weak stuff. Even as a premie I felt that he is too proud of himself that he believed in his phony poems. Sure a lot a premies encouraged him to reveal his genius to his followers."Oh Maharaji you are such a great writer you must read your wonderfull poems for your dear followers." but.....poetic justice sounds good to me. It's something I would like to have for Maharaji, so that all his followers can see how much illusion was created in their minds, that makes all of them believe so strongly that they found something special.......and today looks for me so cultish and sick. wolfie
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Yes, I realise now that something deep inside began to suspect at that point. Reading Wolfie's post now I remember; something deep and personal was sniggering at the mediocre, adolescent language."Is this for real? Is he serious?" It wa saying in amazement. And the presentation, such conviction! Part of me convinced myself that it was "naive" in style, because he was so open in sharing his "message" with his devotees. I strained and strained(succesfully) not to see the obvious, and consciously developed the will to view my masters offering in a positive light. Perhaps this was the future of poetry even??! Oh gawd! It was of course derivative,pompous, overblown, first draft, bollox! But I had been labelled as an "intellectual" premie by my peers and had long since suspended all faith in my own aesthetic opinion. M's use of language is a phenomenon in itself. His whole game turns on it. And his poetry? well, like his dancing, it required a exceptionally HUGE shot of raw devotion to make it palatable. I managed though, and came to admire it at the time! Premies, reclaim your minds! It takes years. Start now! Ta Wolfie Bryn
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Hi, I tried to surrender my aesthetic opinion but it did't worked so well, the peoms were too bad. wolfie
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Did anyone ever hear his attempts at music? Neville B
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I was thinking that re the poetry post then doubted myself?
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I thought some of the muzak in the later events was his work, but I could be wrong.
I bet he produced the instrumental version of Arti that had us oldtimers pranaming within.
John.
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Yes, Rawat has "composed" a bunch of stuff. I use the term in its broadest possible sense. Basically, as I understand his equipment, you enter some notes, or even sounds, and the computer "arranges" them into music...sort of. The program turns them and resorts them and eventually, "music" comes out of it. Some of the most banal wallpaper music you ever heard comes out of that equipment. And, yes, rawat does some of that. You thought his poetry was bad? Oh, wow. Check out his "music". Yikes!
Modified by premie_spouse at Fri, Dec 16, 2005, 16:49:26
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Hi Neville B, yes, I heard him play the keyboards at the last event I ever went to, which was Amaroo in April 2001. (I seem to remember him referring to his music studio, and I think I had heard about that before, as well--but you know how these things get put out on the gossip line, and who knew what he really had or didn't have. It was all so unreal for me by then anyway). The music he composed and played at that Amaroo didn't strike me as particularly wonderful, but I was beginning to be beyond being impressed by then--and some things happened to me at that "event" that were'nt so pleasant! I do remember being surprised that we sang the full-length Arti there, with words appearing on the big screens to make sure we'd know what to sing! (For those of us who received K in 1980 or later). The whole thing felt like too much, too late! Within the year, I was out of the whole thing! I do still like some of the music that was played by different people at events over the years--John Mills is one name that comes to mind. I can't remember the others--oh, yes, some called Adorno? Cheers, Shelagh
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There were crows making a racket in the nearby trees at one of the evening sessions at Amaroo (April 2001) and M finally had to yell at them, "Shut Up!". That was one of the best moments! Of course, we all thought it was so amusing that he would say something like that in the middle of his incredible words of wisdom! I wish, now, the crows had won! Perhaps they did. They simply left. Shelagh
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I do remember being surprised that we sang the full-length Arti there, with words appearing on the big screens to make sure we'd know what to sing! (For those of us who received K in 1980 or later). Sounds like some weird devotional indoctrination or something. I heard they sang Arti at these events, but that's the first time I heard they put the words on the big screens. Can you elaborate on that?
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Shelagh. I saw the promotional video ( which included a clip of an Aussie premie friend speaking, who I hadn't seen seen for years ) and was asked to support Amaroo by going to a programme there.I would have liked to but at the time it was just too expensive. In Britain we were still singing full length arti long after 1980 ; not only in the ashrams but also at the big community programmes ( in London , anyway).I think it stopped around 1983/4 ?
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Hi Joe! I don't know what else to tell you about this, other than that the many verses of Arti appeared on the two big screens, one on each side of the stage, as we sang. I knew some of it already because they were still singing arti at different programs in the early 80's, and I had received a printed copy of it after my knowledge session in 1981. But it was a surprise that it was put up on the screens like that in 2001, because I thought all that "Indian stuff" had been dropped (except for subtle non-verbal reminders like the muzak played in halls through the 90's). There was darshan at that Amaroo event, too. In fact, much of it felt like a return to the '70's--which was of course before my time, but I knew enough about it from the many older p's in my community who were still doing all that. ~Shelagh
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Yes, he definitely has a recording studio that was built next to his house for a lot of money (Italian marble floor for best acoustics etc.) He made a CD where he sings. It sounded horrible and was never released. Some of you might have heard sing at an Indian event. He sounded like a donkey and the video was withdrawn pretty quick. All the best, Helen
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