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Joe ®

12/22/2005, 13:05:55
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Okay you guys. Have at it. I just saw this for the first time, which I think may be a response to the  http://prem-rawat-maharaji.info/ website. What I have read so far is about as dishonest and as the Passages Video was.

Note, for example, that in the 1979-1980 entires, a quick check says that it was "Maharaji" who "refurbished" a Boeing 707, the slave labor camp used to do the actual work, however, is not, of course, mentioned. I guess Rawat was just out there himself doing the work, not barking orders and making demands of the slaves, which is what actually happened. Cynthia, care to comment?

Here is the entry for 1973, which, among other things doesn't even MENTION the word MILLENNIUM, being as that was apparently just too embarassing for the cult leader, and instead just includes "Houston" in a list of programs.  The whole thing is pretty glaring in its omissions and obvious, and very dishonest, spin. Pat Haley is not, of course, mentioned. How do these people put their names on this kind of dishonest crap?  Don't they know there are thousands of people who witnessed these things?

Here is the entry for 1973:

Maharaji is 15 years old.

The year is notable for a series of public events in the West, culminating in an international event in Houston in November.

Early in the year, Maharaji does events in Hardwar, Delhi, and Meerut in India before going to the West.

Cities where Maharaji speaks include London, Los Angeles, Denver, Boulder, New York, Boston, Detroit, Chicago, Paris, Bonn, Munich, Copenhagen, Rome, and Houston. The events in Denmark and Italy mark the first time he speaks in those countries.

Maharaji receives recognition from municipal and state leaders and assemblies in the US. There is extensive media coverage leading up to the event in Houston on November 8, 9, 10, which is attended by approximately 20,000 people.

Maharaji is becoming more established in the West and does not return to India until the spring of 1975.

There are signs of growing rifts between Maharaji and his mother and oldest brother, and between Maharaji and some of the senior organizers in the US.

Maharaji celebrates his 16th birthday in December.





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Also in 1973 from Jon Knight (Barf)
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Joe ®

12/22/2005, 13:10:01
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You know, I can't even bring myself to comment on this dishonest drivel, but does it seem that the cult is bringing back the "he speaks 48 languages" stuff?  Aside from being dishonest, does that even make sense in the current PR campaign?  Well maybe there isn't one.  Get set to get nauseous:

16-year old Maharaji discusses global economy with business graduate

Maharaji came to Boston in August of 1973, and we had rented a house for him. There was an event at Hynes Auditorium that was designed to hold 5500 people, and nearly 10,000 people showed up. About 7500 or so got crammed into the hall, and another couple of thousand gathered in the street outside where loudspeakers were set up. The next day, I remember standing in the living room of the house with him. I had recently gotten my MBA from Boston University, and he was talking about the global economic situation. He was 15 years old, and he was talking about the Japanese auto industry and the German steel industry and many other things. It was the clearest analysis of the global economic situation I had ever heard. From the standpoint of somebody who had just been to business school, it was really interesting for me that this young man was speaking much more clearly than any professor I’d ever heard.

Jon Knight, an early student of Maharaji's in the US









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Actually, it's a lot of the same people as in Passages
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Joe ®

12/22/2005, 13:24:04
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With the notable exceptions of Ron Geaves, Glen Whittaker and Linda Pascotto.  Also, that flamboyant dresser of the stars isn't in there either.  No Joan Apter either.

But Hampton, Collier, Peter Lee, Galloway, etc. are there.







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Hey, Nigel and everyone -- submit your story to this website
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12/22/2005, 13:27:02
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And keep track of everything they won't print, or censor, which we all know will be a lot.

No mention of any ex-premie complaints either, anywhere on the site I could find.







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12/22/2005, 13:40:47
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this one from John Hampton :

Agendas in the organization

I remember in the early 1970s, Bob Mishler was in charge and was building a big organization in Denver. Maharaji used to call him out to his residence in Malibu, it seemed to me, just so Bob could cool his heels for a few days. I remember he would have Bob wait for several days before seeing him, and Bob being visibly agitated. Bob was married to Eileen, and once I was in the room when Bob and Eileen were there, and Maharaji said to Eileen, “Eileen, does he meditate?” Eileen hesitantly said, “Well,Maharaji, he says he meditates constantly.” Then Maharaji said, “Yes, but does he sit down and practice?” Eileen basically had to say, “No.” Maharaji said to Bob, "You can try to save the whole world, but if you don't meditate, how can you be saved?" It was pretty obvious that Mishler had his own agenda.
John Hampton,
early student and assistant of Maharaji







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Pretty disgusting John Hampton is.....
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12/22/2005, 13:53:24
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Criticizing a guy who's dead and can't defend himself.  Gee, John, what a nice guy you are.

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12/22/2005, 17:53:20
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"Then Maharaji said, “Yes, but does he sit down and practice?” Eileen basically had to say, “No.” Maharaji said to Bob, "You can try to save the whole world, but if you don't meditate, how can you be saved?" "

Doesn't THIS sound familiar? When is the last time anybody saw rawat meditate? Oh, that's right he IS the meditation.

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Here he is so blissed out he can't even find a smile. The Incarnation of JSCA my ass!

Karen







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Kind of a dig at Boston University, isn't it?
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12/22/2005, 14:37:56
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 From the standpoint of somebody who had just been to business school, it was really interesting for me that this young man was speaking much more clearly than any professor I’d ever heard.

This is just plain hysterical. 







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Hey! A magnetic car! With magnet power! Whatever next?
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12/22/2005, 14:39:42
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QUOTE

Maharaji's early fascination with technology

Maharaji used to talk to me about technological things. I can remember him talking to me for hours about a magnetic car he designed that worked with magnet power. It was all above my head. He was always incredibly eager to learn new technology. His ability to completely consume and munch up information and learn from other people was just beyond me. He knew everything about cameras—from Nikon to Leica lenses. He loved to find out about any new technological thing, I suppose from when he was a kid and used to take his toys apart. With me, it was cameras we talked about a lot.

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The prem rawat foundation is behind that...
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12/22/2005, 14:53:43
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now they are restarting the typical cult leader fairy tale nonsense.
This can only mean one thing. The oldtimers start leaving .........


toby






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Is Rawat a religious leader or not?
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12/22/2005, 16:46:10
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I really would like it if they could make up their minds some day. One day it is not a religion and all Rawat is is an inspirational speaker and then another time he is a fully realised spiritual soul.

Here is Bihari Singh, Rawat's sometime driver, childhood mate and general hanger-on:

Sikh sees infant Maharaji as a great saint

When Maharaji was a couple of months old, I was taking him in a baby buggy every evening to Gandhi Park. One day, a revered Sikh came and looked at Maharaji’s face. He put a rose at his feet and said, “He’s a great saint.” When I came back, I told Shri Maharaj Ji and Mata Ji, and then everybody started to call Maharaji “Sant Ji.”

I don't really see this new website being around for too long, there are too many contradictions and general blatent cult aspects showing.  Once 'they' realise this the plug on the website will be pulled, or maybe it will become so bland as to be laugable.

Really this new website (avfp) is a great resource for most interested people to get to know what Prem Rawat is all about, realise exactly what is going down and as a result walk away. Walk away pretty smartly, and never look back.

I hope this new website is linked far and wide, it needs as much publicity as we all can manage.

T





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