Alternative Religions by Stephen J. Hunt
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03/17/2007, 20:03:33
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DLM gets one page in this 268 page textbook and if the quality of the book can be judged by the quality of that page then the book is pretty well useless.

Apart from what appears to be an editing error where the Knowledge, mahatmas, instructors and instructions are mistakenly bound into a sentence it is almost DLM as told by Glen Whitaker which actually has been done in another book on New Religions.

The supposed reference to the existence of two gods is a mystery and the 3rd last sentence will be hilarious (or tragic) to those who read here. Exactly when did he have a more ascetic life to leave behind?


116 ALTERNATIVE RELIGIONS


The Divine Light Mission

The leader of the Divine Light Mission (DLM), the Guru Maharaji, was 13 years old when he spectacularly rose to fame in the early 1970s. It was his young age which made him different from other eastern gurus who had established similar Hindu inspired movements at the time. He was the son of Shri Hans Ji Maharaji, who began the DLM in India in 1960, based on the teachings of his own variety of enlightenment through the acquisition of spiritual knowledge. When his father died in 1966, Guru Maharaji announced himself the new master and started his own teaching. His global tour in 1971 helped to establish a large following in Britain and the USA. In 1973, he held what was intended to have been a vast, much publicized event in Houston Astrodome. ‘Millennium ‘73’ was meant to launch the spiritual millennium, but the event attracted very few and had little wider influence.

Perhaps because of this failure, Maharaji transformed his initial teachings in order to appeal to a Western context. He came to recognize that the Indian influences on his followers in the West were a hindrance to the wider acceptance of his teachings. He therefore changed the style of his message and relinquished the Hindu traditional beliefs, and most of its original eastern religious practices. Hence, today the teachings do not concern themselves with reincarnation, heaven, or life after death. The movement now focuses entirely on the ‘Knowledge’ (formerly called mahatmas), which is a set of simple instructors on how adherents should live. This Westernization of an essentially eastern message is not seen as a dilemma or contradiction. In the early 1980s, Maharaji altered the name of the movement to Elan Vital to reflect this change in emphasis. Once viewed by followers as Satguru or Perfect Master, he also appears to have surrendered his almost divine status as a guru. Now, the notion of spiritual growth is not derived, as with other gurus, from his personal charisma, but from nature of his teaching and its benefit to the individual adherents to his movement. Maharaji has also dismantled the structure of ashrams (communal homes).
  
The major focus of Maharaji is on stillness, peace, and contentment within the individual, and his ‘Knowledge’ consists of the techniques to obtain them. Knowledge, roughly translated, means the happiness of the true self-understanding. Each individual should seek to comprehend his or her true self. In turn, this brings a sense of well-being, joy, and harmony as one comes into contact with ones ‘own nature’. The Knowledge includes four secret meditation procedures: Light, Music, Nectar, and Word. The process of reaching the true self within can only be achieved by the individual, but with the guidance and help of a teacher. Hence, the movement seems to embrace aspects of world-rejection and world-affirmation. The tens of thousands of followers in the West do not see themselves as members of a religion but the adherents to a system of teachings that extol the goal of enjoying life to the full.
  
For Elan Vital, the emphasis is on individual, subjective experience rather than on a body of dogma. The teachings provide a kind of practical mysticism. Maharaji speaks not of God but of the god or divinity within, as the power that gives existence. He has occasionally referred to the existence of the two gods — the one created by humankind and the one which creates humankind. Although such references apparently suggest an acceptance of a creative, loving power, he distances himself and his teaching from any concept of religion. It is not clear whether it is possible to receive Knowledge from anyone other than Maharaji. He claims only to encourage people to ‘experience the present reality of life now’. Leaving his more ascetic life behind him, he does not personally eschew material possessions. Over time, critics have focused on what appears to be his opulent lifestyle and argue that it is supported largely by the donations of his followers. However, deliberately keeping a low profile has meant that the movement has generally managed to escape the gaze of publicity that surrounds other NRMs.
 







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Just looks like lazy sloppy editing to me, ie, ‘Knowledge’ (formerly called mahatmas) ???



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03/18/2007, 06:53:04
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Arthur said it's sloppy editing.  I say it's academic failure.

Hunts gets a lot wrong.  Makes me have even less confidence in all those scholars of new religious movements, which is the nice euphemism for cults, as you know. 

For Elan Vital, the emphasis is on individual, subjective experience rather than on a body of dogma.

That's hilarious.  What does Hunt think is going on when they listen to "The Keys?"  The dogma is that it is "that experience," and only Maharaji can provide it and that he has the grace to zap it into people, and so much more.







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03/18/2007, 08:20:41
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I remember Rawat mentioning the two Gods, although it wasn't an original thought, and was hardly central to his 'teaching'. Basically, he said that there is the God man has created, which is basically a concept, and doesn't exist; and there is the God that created man which cannot understood by thought, but can only be directly experienced with the help of the Perfect Master.

I agree with Cynthia that this example shows how shallow the understanding is that so-called scholars have of Rawat and his cult. Ex-followers are the only people with the necessary experience and freedom of thought to understand cults, and even we have difficulty unravelling it all.







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this concept thing
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03/19/2007, 05:09:09
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Premies feel very intellectual when they use the word "concept".
 
"Its just your concept brother", "I just had my concept broken" etc. It was one of my first "drips" when I suddenly heard it flung about (sometimes at me) by the thickest of premies.

Tragically though when I was devoted, inspired by the master's example, the word became a catch-all term for my entire mental life; a completely undifferentiated, dismissive, trope.The Light and the Holy Name are real and all other inner, cognitive activity is just "concepts"-and as everyone intellectual knows, concepts aren't real. I think the assumed cleverness involved in using the term lies in the posture that one has a deep grasp of the "subjective/objective" conundrum, and has consciously chosen to ally oneself with "no-nonsense,  modern, up-to-date philosophical certainties". Oh Gawd, how cute!

Used by a premie, "concept" is nothing more than a verbal reflex-action;a compulsive pulling-the-rug-out from under anyone and anything that they don't understand, including their own thinking.

Prove me wrong Mahatma ji, I'm only round the corner!

Love

Bryn

 






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03/20/2007, 00:39:54
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Remember the teaching of the poet: “First they came for Jesus and I
said nothing. Then they came for Buddha and I said nothing. Then they
came for Krishna and I said nothing. Then they came for Mohammed and I
said nothing. Then they came for Emmanuel Swedenborg and I said
nothing. Then they came for Joseph Smith and I said nothing. Then they
came for Mary Baker Eddy and I said nothing. Then they came for Anton
LaFaye and I said nothing. Then they came for Elijah Mohammed, and I
said nothing. Then they came for Bill W. and I said nothing. Then they
came for me, but by then I was too old to care. Screw ‘em. And who are
“they” anyway?”
-from Jewschool.com






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03/20/2007, 02:02:16
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met together in a garden fair

put in a basket bound with skin

if you answer this riddle

you'll never begin

Now you are a riddle alright but you've also got it all wrong. They didn't come for Jesus, he went to them, they didn't come for Buddha, he died of natural causes as did Mohammed, Swedenborg, May Baker Eddy, Elijah Mohammed and Bill W.

Joseph Smith was shot dead by an enraged group of vigilantes but in their defense they had good reasons to be enraged and who the hell is Anton LaFaye?






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03/20/2007, 16:58:17
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Not too many know the koeeaddi reference. No idea who Anton LaFaye is. My late night attempt at lame humor.






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