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arthurchappell ®

02/24/2007, 03:44:02
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I've sent the following statement to Prem's biographer -

An open invitation to Andrea Cagan.

Copy to her agent.

 

            My critique of your book, Peace Is Possible, which I have posted onto my website at www.arthurchappell.clara.net/bookreviews.c.andrea.cagan-peace.is.possible.htm raises a number of questions about the many stories you do not tell, and some that you do not tell as well as I personally believe they ought to be told. For instance, Maharaji has been accused of leaving the scene of a fatal traffic accident in which a cyclist died, leaving a supporter to take the blame in his place. You offer no commentary on this at all. I’m not saying here that the accusation is true or false but that its absence from your book one way or the other is extraordinary. I for one wish to know more about such incidents. I did after all follow Maharaji for four and a half years before becoming somewhat disillusioned. You can see my own story at www.arthurchappell.clara.net/brainwashing.htm

 

            Understandably, supporters of Prem Rawat, aka – Guru Maharaji, do not share my views. There is now some fierce discussion on the Amazon website promoting your book, between his admirers and his opponents. Perhaps you would care to add your voice to the discussion personally as his biographer. I have added a copy of this invitation to the discussion page at http://www.amazon.com/gp/discussionboard/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_et_up_redir/002-3997538-3736832?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3EB0EB2M2CDK1&cdPage=1&asin=0978869494&cdThread=Tx23FPVNT8EF21M&newContentID=Mx2XVP67D7YDTF7#MxWON6QWHAJS0A

    I look forward to your views on this subject, which should help to clear up any loose ends for all of us. Yours sincerely,  Arthur Chappell.




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Again, well done Arthur: Wizard move old boy.
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Lp ®

02/24/2007, 03:56:45
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One of the best lessons we could have, albeit, these are in most cases; in some way, and (in some cases : extremely so,) my friends:

Is to see the way the premie mind works, firsts, it's OK, we've all been there, but to see how it works for anyone who is not actually inside it at the moment.

The only truth they have is not only, (infact hardly at all) the knowledge of all ignorances they have been taught to practice, but the other words that drivel from his lips as well.

Their opinions of things are his opinions. He is the only authority they trust. They don't believe the news, the papers, only the revised edition of the holy papers of St Joseph's Academy, Dehradun: award winning tin god award.

They must, however believe he is psychic, clairvoyant, and an adept at the higher end powers of telepathy to be able to tell them in such elaborate and easily learned - off by heart fashion - and repeatable - excuses for not having to take on board the common voice of the people who have been taken in by this knowledge and suffered. I mean to be able to read our minds. The list is endless.. numbers of ill effects are reported: mostly to that invisible self. The person he so easily sucked in and spat out as if from the skirts on the syphon of a giant octopus.

Hmmm. this wall of sound stuff aint bad but when ya
run out of momentum. ....

.........There's nothing like trying to reason with real premies., hell, it's not bad: it's a book forum, Read the book and why should not Amazon make a bundle selling paperbacks, while playing forum masters to a legitimate debate on the subjects in questions... "Who is Guru Maharaj Ji?" "Lord of the Universe?" (Clarity). "Possible Peace?."

Grab a handle.






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02/24/2007, 12:40:51
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Nice, Arthur, but unfortunately your first sentence is garbled in a couple of ways.  Enough so, in fact, that you might want to correct and send again.  Just a thought. 

By the way, if you do decide to clear that up, well ... of all the egregious gross errors of omission, her handling of the Pat Halley incident is particularly, er, striking?







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arthurchappell ®

02/25/2007, 05:07:40
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Hi Jim could you be specific about which aspect  of my opening paragraph is garbled. It reads ok to me  but any suggestions for improvements will be given full consideration - much appreciated - cheers. 

Yes, her skirting around the Halley incident is extremely telling.




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02/25/2007, 17:06:19
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Arthur,

It's only your opening sentence:

My critique of your book, Peace Is Possible, which I have posted onto my website at www.arthurchappell.clara.net/bookreviews.c.andrea.cagan-peace.is.possible.htm raises a number of questions about the many stories you do not tell, and some that you do not tell as well as I personally believe they ought to be told.

It doesn't make sense to me.  Do you mean to ask her about some of the stories she tells as well as some she doesn't but which, in your opinion, she should?  That's my guess but, at this point, that's all it is!






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02/26/2007, 03:33:50
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Yes, your assessment of what I am asking Cagan is correct - I will break the paragraph to make it more accessible,  Cheers.

I think her biography of Prem fails to address some concerns at all, ie, the Jagdeo incident, the death of the cyclist. Other things, such as the pie in the face incident are covered, but not as far as the reporter responsible being maimed for it. As such, the biography is grossly misleading propaganda. Cagan's motives seem unclear. 1/. She is a Premie, writing about a leader she personally adores - but if so, she failst say what she personally makes of the Knowledge. She plugs it as a great gift but has she tried it herself?

2/. (and more likely) As an established biographer already, she was commissioned by the cult to write the biography of its leader - and therefore let them call the shots on what could or could not be written about. This would raise the question of how much free reign she had in her writing, and why, as she was giving such a positive spin to Prem's story, he didn't make time for her to interview him directly. She claims to have spoken to many followers, and may well have done so, but some sections are definately just copied verbatim from website sources without acknowledgement of who originally wrote them. I believe she must declare why she wrote her book as she did, and clarify her own position in relation to Maharaji and his teachings.

The question must be asked - was Cagan aware of some of the controversies about Maharaji that she does not address? If so, why not. On the other hand, did she research her book so unthoroughly as not to find material that is easily found with a simple Google search? Her relainceon just what the Premies have told her has made her book of little real value at all. There is virtually no investigative journalism in it at all. It is quite possibly the worst non-fiction book I have ever read.




http://www.lulu.com/content/757452 My book on Maharaji -  BRAINWASHED! A CULT SURVIVOR'S TALE

Arthur Chappell arthur@chappell7300.freeserve.co.uk

 My Space. http://www.myspace.com/56954240

Web site  www.arthurchappell.clara.net/

 




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a work of friction?
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02/26/2007, 03:52:07
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'It is quite possibly the worst non-fiction book I have ever read.'

It doesn't read so good as fiction either! What is it??





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