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Here's your Guru Maharaji in 1978. No, he didn't become invisible, but he did remain God after Bob Mishler left.
Modified by Joe at Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 19:17:04
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Glen Whitaker has admitted that the substantive information on ex-premie.org is true, which is why no legal action (apart from the copyright action) has been taken to close the site down. It also explains why no one has informed me of any significant inaccuracies in the content of the website in the over 4 years I've been responsible for the site.
Of course Glen wouldn't dare to question the testimony of anyone still living, and his criticism of Mishler will reach so few people that it is clear its only audience is existing cult members.
John.
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Or did the lying Whittaker just say that orally, such that he is not only a liar, he's two-faced as well.
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Joe,
He said it orally when asked why no one is doing anything to stop ex-premie.org. This is not on ex-premie.org, but I only need the permission of the person who told me to put it there.
Of course he's a liar and two-faced, and he's welcome to sue me if he wants. But I would prefer that he reflect on the meaning of the word 'truth' and turn his allegiance from 'Master' to truth.
John.
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I doubted very much that Whittaker would have the balls to every say anything critical of his Lord in writing. So, I guess you were joking about giving that slimeball credit.
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Joe,
Although there was of course a little irony in the subject of my post I do have faith that Glen will have the balls, even if he stays a devotee, to repeat in public what he said in private.
So, Glen, what about it? Will you confirm that Rawat's drinking, drug use, and his long term affair with Monica is true?
John.
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And while you're at it Glen, can you also amend the EV website to give an honest account of the past. During the 70's. Do away with all the lies, and tell it like it was. And still is for many premies like yourself who believe that Rawat is the Lord.
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I personally see no reason to believe that.
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Joe, you're absolutely right in all your comments about Glen here. Last time you posted about him, I defended him quite vehemently. That was mistake of mine, and his actions since then have proved to me what a cult victim he really is. I later regretted that I bothered to defend him, because of certain things that happened after that. There was a knock on effect that I won't go into, but I will say that it shocked and saddened me. My post at that time caused me quite a few problems, but one thing I really understood is that Glen will compromise his integrity, and loyalty, for sake of the lard. the desire of Bob Mishler....to downplay Maharaji’s role as the teacher
Since that time M has done this himself anyway. He's no longer the Lord of the Universe, just a plain old Motivational Speaker, which is what Bob wanted Rawat to gravitate towards anyway. So Rawat took Bob's advice in the end. That is irony. Anna
Modified by Anna at Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 19:24:51
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And sometimes it's more lying by omission, but those are lies as well. He wrote a piece on the old EV website, in which he lied by omission about what happed between 1973 and 1983. He lied in the Passages Video, or at least allowed his statements to be used as lies, by claiming that Maharaji, in the late 70s, had to get rid of Indian customs, namely saris. This was all part of the revisionist spin that Maharaji got rid of the Indian traditions (which he largely didn't) and that was the end of the problem. It wasn't that he was playing God and thousands of people wasted their youth trying to devote their lives to him. No, it was just a cultural misunderstanding and easly corrected. That is a lie. So, as you can tell, this greatly pisses me off, and I take it very personally when someone like Glen lies about my past.
Modified by Joe at Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 19:31:39
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For years and years I had to listen to Whittaker saying how much he loved Maharaji and how much he would do for Maharaji due to that love he felt for Maharaji. It was almost to the point of being 'icky' how much he would drone on and on about his love for Maharaji. And then in the Passages video Whitakker turns around and says something like 'You know what, I felt respect for Maharaji, but not love for many years, but only now do I feel love for Maharaji.' One word describes this behaviour - cultoid. T
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Maybe being an active part in the mass manipulation gives him some relieve instead of being manipulated passively only. So helping rawat delude and lie to followers and the public is just for the higher ranks of aprentices.
toby
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"I was working at the grandly named ----------------International Headquarters of Maharaji’s work in Denver" Imagine the hell! His life wasted, it is 2005, and he still is clutching rawat despite all good sense here on the forum and epo
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