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Re: Re: Boy, can you ever talk around a question! Bravo! -- godonlyknows Top of thread Forum
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10/21/2004, 18:05:14
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In a court, would your two quotations be automatically accepted as accurate? Would the court simply take your word for it that they are accurate? Would I be required to answer your question without some sort of reasonable evidence that those two quotations are accurate?

Since you are a lawyer, that should be easy enough for you to answer (maybe even just yes or no).

Let's put it this way.  If you sincerely objected to the accuracy of the quotes, we could discuss that.  If I knew that you'd make an issue of it, hopefully, I'd be prepared with that proof beforehand.  But listen, GOK, the quotes are real.  They come from authentic, official DLM and EV publications.  While it's always possible that one or two words got past the transcribers, typists, proof-readers and editors, it's simply absurd to suggest that the quotes are any more inaccurate than that. 

Besides, in the example you gave, your ear apparently misunderstood one word.  Rawat said "doctor" and you thought he said "doctrine" (or the other way around.  I haven't bothered checking).  Here, I dare you to take those passages and try to suggest where they're somehow even possibly misconstrued.  You could never do that in a million years. Never.  When Rawat is quoted as saying:

I was telling you yesterday that Guru will take devotion and multiply it and give it to God. Remember, I was only saying that for your mental satisfaction. Guru is Himself God! Look at Him; what is God, you will see in Him. Look at Him first. See in Him, and you will find God. The full power of God that you have seen in Light, that you will see in Light.

You can't possibly come up with any alternative explanation as to what he "really" said that would make sense. 

I answered your question as best I could, under the circumstances, not knowing if those two quotations are accurate or not, and I said: "But don't worry, I'm not going to argue that black is white. I have been around since 1974, I listened a lot to Maharaji, and attended a lot of events, and read a lot of 'Divine Light' magazines, and other magazines, in the 1970s, and I understand the general point you are making." And I tried to answer that general point - not in a simplistic way, but in an honest way. That's the way I see things.

Oh but let's not stop there, GOK!  I've answered your question.  The quotes are accurate.  So don't just use your initial "difficulty" as an excuse to duck out.  Let's get back on track.  Assuming the quotes are accurate (which they are -- there are countless more like them), won't you concede that Rawat was calling himself God?

You know, your vouching for your own honesty only goes so far.  The real test is whether you are honest. 

So?  Was he calling himself God or not then?  "Guru is Himself God!" .....?  Come on, GOK, this isn't rocket science. 








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