er, pardon me for questioning that, but doesn't the Pacific Mod's post above state it quite clearly that POV is banned?

>Of course.  I am just saying that 'banned' sounds kind of Victorian.  I say he's in the box for now and maybe we will let POV out to post again someday, depending on if he or she can be cool with the people while being hot on the topics.  

Sandy, you also say (oh shit, you might think, another accusation), well - maybe:

you say "As for POV being the most honest premie you can expect, you are wrong again.  I am living proof."

Living proof eh? Sheesh, those gol darned premies eh? always trying pull the old "I'm more honest than you" trip.

>I am saying that I came here ready and willing to cop to anything that was presented to me that was obvious proof that Prem Rawat and his assistants did not act like the Heavenly Hosts that they advertised themselves to be.  I never fought with the truth and I never consciously hurt anyone here.  I believe that POV has fought with the truth and not just us and I also believe that he consciously hurt Susan by his deliberate statements.  

Shucks. You're not quite out of the woods yet are you, Sands.

>I like the woods and who wants to be out of them?  People in the cities flock to the woods to get away from the buzz and the speed of the cities.  No, my statement was not proud or egotistical.  It was honest.  I came here open to hear what everyone had to say.  Wealth alone would not sway me away from him.  Drink and smoke would not sway me either.  But children hurt on his watch by one of his closest people for years...?  I promised not to dwell on this too much, but I had to bring it up here to say that was what did it for me, to leave without any remorse at all.    

mind you, neither am I

>Let's go mushroom hunting, whadddaya say?  Those morels just pop up under those mayapples after a rain from nowhere and do they taste great sauteed in butter! 

afterthought, by way of explanation:
I've only recently gone on-line at home. Prior to this it was a matter of rushing to the local library after work and fitting in as many replies as I could manage in less than an hour.

But now this! What joy! Being able (and willing) to reply at leisure! And I've been online, primarily on this forum, for the most part of this evening.

>How nice for you! 

Can I go to bed now? Please?