I did pick up on what you call "smarminess" by some ex-premies. However, as you know everyone has their own perpective and opinions. I do understand you wanting to stand up for yourself and in that respect I don't blame you.

My problem is that I like so many of the posters here. BTW It was nice to see you and gerry talking. LOL. I think everyone contributes one way or another to this forum and that's what makes it interesting for me. As I said before I enjoy reading your posts. And no one really likes being attacked.