The whole premise of god realization is bogus from stem to stern, and provably so.

Finding some clean straws in a pig pen doesnt mean that particular pig can fly.

Finding some birds in a cage that seem sweet natured does not mean the cage life is the way to live a successful bird life. Oh sure, david lane might see how perhaps the hawk cant get at the bird in the cage, and perhaps there is this or that possible positive.

There is NO SUCH THING as a guru. There is god, and there is us.
There are no actual self god realized anyones anywhere.

The whole premise is not reality based.
Lane is not fully guru realized. Not fully "god realized" realized.

Sorry Andries, or rather, good news Andries, your former guru had NO possible way of being what he was pretending to be.