Are you from the USA? I'm pretty sure you could find groups like that here as well, it's just that I don't know them. They may be in that situation because of their involvement with Rawat or their involvement with Rawat might provide some bright moments in their lives that would otherwise be the same It could be of interest but is probably not possible to determine what is the cause and what is the result. Your point is taken. I am certainly not trying to prove all premies lead happy and successful lives, just that there are many who do.