I think what happened to John will go down in premie folklore. His downfall, his humiliation, his pain and suffering, his desperation is straight from the old testament : I will strike thee with vengance...The abject brutality of it all.

Personally, I am shocked. I was a premie, a good premie for 30 years and I never thought what I was involved with was capable of this. This is so much worse than what happened to the guy who threw a pie in Maharaji's face back in the 70's.

Anyway, I am surprised you are not disturbed by all this.