Something I have always loved about this Forum is this is a place to have concepts poked! There is no need to apologize or leave. I really like when practicing premies come to the Forum. It challenges my beliefs too! Prem's AGYA to "leave no room for doubt in your mind," is a recipe to promote and enforce cult mind. I had a lot of cosmic, blissful, and mystic experiences in the cult that I attributed to Prem aka LOTU. But then I have had a lot more since I exed out.  I go back and try to reexamine what was "real" and not. How much of it was created by my emotional ferver? 

Why do the premies that have been practicing for DECADES not ever realize knowledge? Can you name ANYONE that has realized K? IMO, most commit what is termed "spiritual bypass." This is where a person adopts a spiritual practice, but never does the deep Shadow Work required to face, confront, deal with all aspects of Self. Instead they tend to project on to others what is "within inside" themselves that they fear to face. When I first joined the Forum in 2000 there were a fair number of active premies here and some were consumed with vitriol. I do not find your posts to be like that. I feel that to question anyone's beliefs here is great, as long as you are polite about it. You have been. That is a good thing. I welcome challenging dialogue .

Karen Kirschbaum