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05/06/2017, 23:19:05
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Hi PatD

Are
you quite sure of your assessment regarding the origin of GMJ’s merchant-guru
family business? 

Sikhism,
founded over 500 years ago had a succession of ten gurus, became heavily based after
the death of the last guru on the book the ‘Guru Granth Sahib’, and is pretty
high-profile in northern India.  The Sant
Mat sect, founded by Hazur Swami Ji Maharaj (who was born in the early 1800’s) was
annexed to Sikhism, but heavily focused on the concept of Sat Guru and
more mystical / meditation practices. 
They had a clear succession of Sat Gurus until Sawan Singh died in 1948, then
splintered into multi-guru branches.  Sant Mat
also employed initiation into secret meditation techniques that are very similar
to ‘Knowledge’ and based on the same Bhakti / Sat Guru principles. 

I
agree that Shri Hans’ teachings pretty much mirror those of the Sant Mat gurus and some accounts tie him to Radha Soami and initiation to Sawan Singh, but Shri Hans is also thought to come out of the Avait Mat tradition (not Radha Soami).  But regardless, the encompassing culture clearly was Hinduism and his teachings also mirror identical mechanics as many Hindu sects. 

All
Indian religions essentially tie back to the four Vedas, and subsequent Vedic literature,
particularly the Upanishads and the epics (Mahabharata and the Ramayana).  The stories and lore around GMG and Shri Hans
I saw or read about were almost always core Vedic, with the Mahabharata and the Ramayana
the most often quoted sources.  I did see
some references to Guru Nanak, the first Sikh guru, but personally never saw a
reference to any Sant Mat gurus during my time.

My
own opinion is that it was quite a mash-up, and while seemingly derivative
of Radha Soami sect principles, Shri Hans' / GMJ's religion is MUCH more culturally derivative of classical
Hinduism, with emphasis on Bhakti Yoga.
  Hinduism and the Yoga
tradition have employed the same Sat Guru philosophy as Sant Mat for much, much
longer and more pervasively than Sikhism / Sant Mat.






Modified by roark at Sat, May 06, 2017, 23:27:38

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