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Bunny ®

10/13/2009, 13:51:34
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Hello,

It’s been long time since I posted as a regular on this forum.  I know quite a number of the posters here both from the old days, meetings in cyberspace and of course various Latvians  So though I have always been ‘incognito’ on the forum, many know my identity and more than a few have guessed.  Warm greetings to you all and also to those of you who I haven't met and don't know me! 

I gave Mike an excerpt summarizing why I left Maharaji to be included in his new book, so I am coming out publicly now.  You read it here first – I am not really a rabbit. I am Gail Benton, loyal devotee of Maharaji for over 25 years, ex-instructor and long-term partner of Mike Finch.

I have watched Mike as he wrote his memoirs of his time with Maharaji and his journey to reclaim his authority.  I have witnessed both the exacting measures he took to ensure the accuracy of his account and the integrity of spirit with which he approached the project.  I admit I am probably biased –though I can assure you – I am the first one who will gladly provide him with constructive criticism (ha ha – sometimes not so constructive!).    However, I totally respect the courage and tremendous commitment (in terms of his energy, time and money) – that he has shown in producing this book. 

Perhaps if the cult had not proved so determined to erase our history, there may not have been such a powerful reason to write it. But none of us would have dedicated ourselves to a “motivational speaker” in the way that premies did to the man we believed to be the Lord, no matter how persuaded or influenced we were by his precepts!  And the record needs to be put straight. As far as possible, people should to be able to make informed choices in all things; ex-premie.org, and most of the affiliated websites help provide the opportunity to make that choice with regard to Maharaji.  I hope Mike’s book will help more to make their choice informed – whatever the outcome may be.  I don’t mind if anyone makes a free choice to follow Maharaji, what I mind is the deception employed to manipulate them into making it; well, not just the deception, but also the abuses perpetrated by means of that deception.

So well done Mike!  Thanks for doing what I would love to have done but know I would never get round to!  Thanks for helping to set the record straight and documenting a history (albeit your memoirs rather than purely the story of DLM/Elan Vital) that has affected and continues to affect so many.  A history that I have grown to feel less embarrassed by as I lived more in the “normal" everday world and realized quite how often people give their power away to more subtle, and indeed, more insidious guru’s whether in the political, corporate or new age arenas.   In fact, I often think that it’s not always the obvious gurus that we should be most wary of.   

One final plug on the book – it’s a great read!  A USA friend of mine (never a premie but who has known many)  who was visiting us in Massachusetts found the proof copy of the book “so compelling I felt like reading it all night and had to make myself go to sleep”.  As it was the only one we had we couldn’t let her take it.  When she came back to visit a few days later it was one of the first things she asked for! 

Love to you all,

Gail Benton







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Mike Finch ®

10/13/2009, 13:52:58
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Gail - let me be the first to congratulate you on coming out.

You were a great support to me throughout the writing of the book, and I am glad to have this opportunity of thanking you publicly.

Also, of course, you actually helped me loosen my ties to Maharaji and his belief system, and were instrumental in getting me out. So another 'thank you' for that.

I love you

-- Mike




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10/13/2009, 14:11:48
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Just a thought Mike regarding the distribution of your book

...I spent hours both before and after becoming a premie here ( see link to web site ). There must be many other "spiritual bookshops" but this one is pretty famous.





Related link: http://www.watkinsbooks.co.uk/
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Hi Gail, nice to see you
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10/13/2009, 14:00:34
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10/13/2009, 14:06:46
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Hi Gail,

What a lovely post and so nice to hear from you. I'm sure you were a wonderful support to Mike as he wrote his tome.

I can't wait to get my hands on it ( have ordered it from Amazon ).

I couldn't help thinking that maybe for your never-a-premie American friend it would be a cracking good, can't put-it-down read...all the weirdities surrounding DLM and premiedom that we got used to and took for granted must be a revelation to the innocents who were never involved in such a racket. Having said that maybe Mike has given his involvement in our mass folly the momentum of a thriller !






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You counted when it mattered the most to many people, Gail!
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lakeshore ®

10/13/2009, 14:08:39
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Dear Gail,

It is such a heartwarming pleasure to now be able to amend my sentence to Mike as follows:

It is a great honor and privilege for Connie and I to have come to know you and Gail as friends, and I can’t thank both of you enough for all you have done for us.

Congratulations, Gail, on your coming out and your new found freedom to be yourself in all aspects of your life.

Mostly, however, I want to thank you and Mike for your warmth, kindness and hospitality. 

Warmest regards,

Bob Tooker

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Hi Gail.
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10/13/2009, 14:53:51
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Good to see you around.

 Best wishes, turey.






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10/13/2009, 15:14:02
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Hi Gail

This : Perhaps if the cult had not proved so determined to erase our history, there may not have been such a powerful reason to write it. But none of us would have dedicated ourselves to a “motivational speaker” in the way that premies did to the man we believed to be the Lord, no matter how persuaded or influenced we were by his precepts!  And the record needs to be put straight. As far as possible, people should to be able to make informed choices in all things; ex-premie.org, and most of the affiliated websites help provide the opportunity to make that choice with regard to Maharaji. 

I just ordered Mikes book , i really hope it tells  our story for people

All the best Poul







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10/13/2009, 15:21:16
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Gail,

I've gotta say that it feels good for me to know that you are among the ranks of folks who have now stood up openly. It's not an easy thing to do and there were many times I wished I'd never done it from the beginning -- as you know.

Perhaps if the cult had not proved so
determined to erase our history, there may not have been such a
powerful reason to write it. But none of us would have dedicated
ourselves to a “motivational speaker” in the way that premies did to
the man we believed to be the Lord, no matter how persuaded or
influenced we were by his precepts! And the record needs to be put straight. As
far as possible, people should to be able to make informed choices in
all things; ex-premie.org, and most of the affiliated websites help
provide the opportunity to make that choice with regard to Maharaji.



That says it all to me and is one more reason I continue to post here after so long. Last month marked ten years of my posting on the forums.  Time passes quickly, so it's important to me that any little bit I may write here might give someone food for thought if they are thinking about leaving Maharaji or entertaining getting involved with him.

It's our life history and no one, including Maharaji, has the right to erase or alter that.

I hope you're well --
Love,
Cynthia





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Good for you Gail
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Kelly ®

10/13/2009, 15:28:17
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Hello Gail, dear friend,

How wonderful to see you here under your own name and what a great celebration for Mikes's book launch.

I know the part you played in helping Mike to throw off the shackles of the cult and I thank you here and now for all the support you have given me as well, through all my tough times and also for all the fun we've had, in and out of the cult.

Loads of love

Talk to you soon!

Karen







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Well done Gail!
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JHB ®

10/13/2009, 15:43:18
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I'm proud of you!

John.







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Hi Bunny (can I still call you that?) I've a great idea for Mike's book ...
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cq ®

10/13/2009, 16:26:27
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Brave of you to leave anonymity behind, and I hope you don't mind me using your moniker of 'Bunny' (I always had trouble remembering your real name when we occasionally met!)

Anyway - the great idea (and don't get me wrong - I'll be ordering my own copy as soon as it's available on the amazon.co.uk site) but how about this:
everyone who'd like to make a more truthful version of Rawat's history more available to a wider audience, ask your local library to order a copy.

I might be wrong, but there may be quite a few premies who are itching to read Mike's book (even if only to see if they're mentioned in it!), but who might think they'd be betraying Rawat if they were to buy it. Borrowing it from a library might be a more palatable option for them (but who knows?).

Just an idea.







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Posted by:
ocker ®

10/13/2009, 17:33:58
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For it to be a free choice wouldn't Rawat have to first admit to all the deception practised by himself and in his name to the "aspirants" beforehand? Or actually before they even became aspirants. So any person sitting down to watch some WOPG propaganda would first see a short, or not so short, confession by Rawat before he started his spiel.






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itsleuth ®

10/13/2009, 18:11:58
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Congratulations to both of you !  It takes a lot of courage and conviction to be so open using your real names etc.






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You have counted to me for a long time
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Brian S ®

10/13/2009, 18:57:37
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Hello Gail,

As Mike said congratulations on coming forth and for the record thank you for all of your help and support in the early days of my exit from the cult.

I owe both you and Mike a debt of gratitute for being there for me as I reclaimed my life, self will and freedom from the many years of insidious cult indoctrination.

The times we shared in Oregon, and England are treasured memories and were important moments in my self recovery.

If there is something good to be had from the entire cult experience it is ultimately meeting incredible people like yourself with real integrity and courage who'll stand up and be counted and openly speak the truth about the Cult and Guru.

All the best and much "Love" to you and Mike

Brian Smith






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